
Sacred Rose: I really like the line from your song “Resurrection Blue” (No War) that goes “Maybe I am a figment of my own imagination.”
Gentry: That song is also titled “A Reluctant Messiah’s Lament,” and is written from the point of view of a prophet/ Buddha (or other religious deity) who has been helping out the human race for some time and with growing frustration he/she is now saying “I’m leaving. Fix yourself. I can’t help you if you don’t fix yourself.” Of course, it is also about the constant process in life of reinventing yourself, being reborn again and again through self growth.
Sacred Rose: That is indeed what we are about here at The Sacred Rose…the constant evolution of change and also maybe becoming more conscious of directions, roles in community and how we might improve things going forward as creative artists.
Speaking of community — I have really felt that community spirit in the past at both the Sweetwater venues – The Sweetwater in Mill Valley and now the Sweetwater Station in Larkspur where you and Jesse held the PKD event in April.
I felt when going to shows at those venues like I was coming home to a community and we were sharing in a ritual of togetherness that was much bigger than just going to a club.
Gentry: Absolutely, the folks at the Sweetwater have always been really good about fostering community. I was part of Alchemia’s music program for 2 years, a non-profit which taught music, art, dance, and theatre to differently-abled adults.
In 2003 I taught six of these adults how to write songs, perform and be in a band. I asked around a lot of venues and some of them would question openly how they might deal with wheelchairs and what kind of issues might arise with disabled persons at the venue.
I couldn’t quite believe this less than supportive reaction. The Sweetwater, on the other hand, was supportive of this effort from the beginning and were really happy to help with this community effort.
Another aspect that is important to bring up is that the Sweetwater Station is an all-ages venue.
Sacred Rose: That is true there were children present for a good part of the evening, some who were involved with the PKD Fundraiser and also playing with Jesse Brewster on stage. I have also seen young musicians at the Sweetwater Station Open Mic night.
Gentry: In the US, the drinking age set at 21 limits far too many people who can see live music and where they can see it. In Europe and many places in the world, it’s legal to drink at 16, or even younger and age has little to do with seeing live music.
I try to do as many all ages shows as possible – this is something that is really important to me. I love to see kids, teens, people in their 20’s, 30’s, all the way to their 70’s and 80’s enjoying music and sharing in community in the same room.
The energy when I am playing an all ages show is so different than a show with the usual crowd of people between 21 and 41, generally attending club shows.
When you have an audience consisting of people from the age of 3 to 73 – there is this completely different vibe. I love this interaction between the ages, the energy that comes from older and younger people in the same room.
Sacred Rose: This is interesting that you say this…I never thought how the age ranges in an audience could make a difference to a performer. In society in general – we are dealing with colonial mind’s emphasis on the individual and as a result there are separations between ages – we do not benefit from the relationship with the elder, for example that indigenous mind would uphold. This lack of wisdom and connection to all ages creates suffering…so to actually be a proponent of all-ages shows is really important. Live music is an integral aspect of connection and healing.
Gentry: I have had shows in which the whole front row consists of people in their 50’s and some of them actually came to me afterward to apologize because of the lack of younger audience. I couldn’t believe it!
Music is such an important part of culture and there are whole age ranges that aren’t experiencing live music.
Sacred Rose: That is really funny though – that particular age ranges of an audience would apologize for being in the front rows at the show…like you might actually get really mad that there weren’t a row of hot young women in short skirts in the front row or something…
Gentry: (laughing)…now you might just quote me like that in the newsletter and make it sound like that is what I am about…it will be like “Gentry just wants young hot women at his shows”…by the time you are done. Don’t get me wrong…I love to see them in the audience too!

Sacred Rose: Is that how it goes, Gentry? It seems that everyone I interview makes references to being misquoted at least once by the press. You know I started these artist profiles as a reaction to an interview in the Marin IJ of a local working musician where the questions asked of him were “do you want to be famous?” and “how do you make a living?” There was an emphasis in my opinion on monetary gain rather than creative process throughout the piece and I thought – -there has to be a better Story in this community than that!
Gentry: Yes, there are more to musicians and our work than just wanting to be famous. You know there was this one time I did an interview for a newspaper in which I spoke to the interviewer about the importance of a green room at music venues. So that as a performer you have a place to get away from the chaos, get grounded and be in your own space before and after a show.
When it got to be published, the article quoted me as saying something about the green room as great place to party or something. It sounded like I was always having quite a blast back there, and I got made fun of by some friends for that quote. Some of my friends made fun of how it sounded.
Sacred Rose: I read your bio on your website – it was quite extensive and your life took many twists and turns…tell me about how all of these different activities – the travel, the different jobs, the moving around — inform your music.
Gentry: The life path people take is invaluable to the work they create. The more experience, the more travel – the more my life is enriched as an artist. This experience of life is fodder for my creativity and a big part of who I am as a person. It inspires my imagination.
I like to think I have more understanding and perspective on the world than I would have if I stayed in my hometown in Minnesota. I was always supported in these explorations by my parents. I mean, they got my name, Gentry, from a hitchhiker. They were counter-culture people – still are really. My Mom has seemed more worried about me when I’ve done a 9-5 job then when I am performing and living an artistic life, following my passions.
Sacred Rose: I have noticed that it is a not uncommon theme for creative artists to travel, change jobs, and generally have a longer timeframe for “growing up,” so to speak. We don’t fit into the normal mold of career path and have been made fun of or made to feel bad because of this…I’d like to change this point of view – as you said, the experiential learning is integral to your creativity as an artist. I think we can actually teach people who have followed more traditional lifepaths to lighten up a little and grow in ways that are unusual for them.
Gentry: It’s true. And I try to get anyone I meet to expand their viewpoint by stretching themselves in this way. I read recently that one in ten people in the United States have a passport. That is ridiculous! I ask those people, “What are you waiting for?” Get a passport and get out of the country and see something you haven’t seen before. Experience the diversity available in new places.
If you have already travelled outside the U.S. – get in a car and start driving. The U.S. is one of the most diverse and incredibly beautiful places in the world and is so different everywhere you go that you do not have to drive far to experience something outside of what you know well. To stretch your comfort zone.
Sacred Rose: What’s it like traveling and playing music in other countries?
Gentry: As a touring musician I get to play music and travel. You can’t beat that. I recently did a tour in Holland. In Europe, I felt incredibly supported as a musician. Being a musician is an important trade in Europe no different in some ways then if you were a dentist or carpenter.
In the U.S., musicians are still fighting to be seen as legitimate. I have gone to clubs where the owners are like “We will pay you in beer – you can drink as much as you want on the night you play.” And as a musician I am supposed to be happy about that?
Sacred Rose: Wow! And become an alcoholic while you are at it!
Gentry: No kidding! So my response to this has been to speak up. The question I like to ask right after a statement about being paid in beer would be, “So, is that how you pay your dentist? With a six-pack of their favorite beer?”
People are a little thrown off by this question. But ultimately, we have to realize that we musicians have usually put a lot of time and effort into our craft.
Jesse Brewster, I think, has been playing since he was 14 or younger, I have played piano since the age of 5 – we put time into practicing, lessons, honing our craft as performers, songwriters, players, and we deserve to get paid. It is bizarre that our culture thinks it’s OK to marginalize music and it does not feel right.
Sacred Rose: Another point I want to go back to is the importance of having been supported emotionally in your passions by your family – so many creative artists are stuck in this area not really living out their full potential. Many artists have grown up hearing put down after put down – when are you going to get a day job and settle down?…So you are you still doing that music thing?
Now while in the end you have to as an individual take responsibility for your own life’s outcome – I can see that by the time you are an adult after listening to negative input for so long that you might buy into this concept of not being good enough. Of not measuring up or deserving to get paid.
Gentry: It’s true! After all if a club manager or theatre owner thinks it’s OK NOT to pay a musician in money, then someone, somewhere has accepted beer as a legitimate form of payment and like any vicious circle — also proving to those club owners and theatre managers that they can find artists who are willing to play only for free beer.
I think those of us who know better need to spend some time and effort re-educating not only our fellow musicians but those in the industry who support our efforts.
Sacred Rose: The typical Starving Artist archetype that so many on both sides of the creative sphere buy into.
Gentry: I can’t stand the concept of the “starving artist.” I don’t think it is necessary to buy into this way of life. And so it becomes important to talk about the process of how you support yourself and the business aspect. To generate some understanding of this as a legitimate trade. If artists are paid, they’ll be able to support themselves and produce better work. And if artists learn to respect themselves enough to feel justified getting paid, then everybody prospers. Especially, the audience.
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